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Writer inspiration and tips on using AI to generate ideas

It’s another month, and another authors’ Round Robin. And this month the topic is…

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Where do your ideas come from?

This question reminds me of a wonderful quote I read by playwright Dennis Potter:

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Stories to me are a sort of magic, and ideas can appear out of what seems like a puff of smoke. Most writers I know are constantly receptive to ideas, and the problem for many is just finding the time to write them up.

If you’re in the business of writing for a living, though, sometimes you can’t afford to wait until magic happens. You have to go and look for it.

Here are some tips I’ve learned for writer inspiration…

Tip 1: Take advantage of being bored

These days it’s easy to pick up your phone for distraction. Not so long ago, though, if you were stuck on a bus or waiting at a train station, you had nothing to do but let your mind wander. I think it’s great to embrace being bored. Being bored leads to daydreaming, and daydreaming leads to ideas.

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Tip 2: Be receptive to new things

Most writers I know are curious. (My husband might say ‘nosy’!) I’m genuinely interested in other people’s lives, no matter who they are. I find it easy to strike up a conversation with strangers. Listening to other people opens up a whole world of stories, and I’ve found most people enjoy having someone listen to them. I’ve even heard that chatting to strangers is a positive step for mental health.

Tip 3: ‘Steal’ ideas

David Bowie famously stole ideas like a magpie, but he used them to create something new and made them unique. In the past I’ve seen minor characters in films or books, and wondered what happened to them once the story is overWhere did they go? At first these are idle questions in my head (my nosiness again!) but new characters and whole new stories have come from wondering about a bit-player in someone else’s narrative.

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When I last wrote about finding inspiration, ChatGPT hadn’t been invented. How the world has changed! Now AI is a massive topic of conversation among writers, with concerns around copyright and loss of jobs.

But there are also authors who are experimenting with AI as a tool.

Using AI to generate ideas

I’ve written previously about what happened when I prompted ChatGPT to write a romance novel. Its attempts were stilted and – well – robotic. At the moment, anyway, it seems AI can only rehash and mangle other people’s words.

I do think, though, that writers can use AI to generate new ideas. I wrote above about being receptive to new things. AI is a new thing in the world of writing and editing.

So I asked ChatGPT the very question on how writers could use it as a tool.

Here are some of ChatGPT’s suggestions…

Chat GPT and brainstorming plot ideas
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ChatGPT’s answer to my prompt on how to use it as a tool:

Start with a basic idea or theme, and ask ChatGPT to expand on it. For example: “Generate a plot idea for a mystery novel set in a small coastal town.”

OK, so then I did what ChatGPT suggested and I asked it to ‘generate a plot idea for a mystery novel’.

It came back with a plot in a bit of a cliché-ed setting – a quaint seaside town (called, uninspiringly, Seaside), with a standard ‘close-knit community’ and a ‘decades-old secret’. The full plot was detailed but seemed to me a bit banal and unrealistic. One thing I did really like. The town of ‘Seaside’ has a ‘charming old lighthouse’. The lighthouse doesn’t then feature in the plot, but I thought on its own maybe this could provide a great idea for a mystery. What if someone was kidnapped and locked away alone in this lighthouse? Why are they there? How would they escape?

I ignored ChatGPT’s plot, but a mystery writer might be able to do something by chasing this spark of an idea.

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Image by Piyapong Saydaung from Pixabay

ChatGPT and character development

ChatGPT’s next suggestion was:

Ask ChatGPT to help create detailed character profiles, including backgrounds, motivations, and unique traits. For example: “What are some unique personality traits for a villain in a fantasy story?”

I wasn’t sure how a machine that’s learned from reading other writers’ characters could come up with ‘unique traits’, but I asked ChatGPT to create a unique villain and it produced a list of 12 villain types. I won’t list them all, but there’s the villain with a sympathetic backstory, for example: ‘A tragic past or a series of unfortunate events that led them to become a villain.’

I recognised all 12 villain types from books or films, but if a writer was planning a bad guy, the suggestions could at least give some food for thought.

ChatGPT and romance

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Image by Piyapong Saydaung from Pixabay

I particularly liked ChatGPT’s suggestion to ask it to ‘give some classic tropes for a romance novel and how to subvert them’. When I did ask it this question, again it came up with a list of well-used ideas, but one or two did make me think about how they could actually be turned into real characters – for example its suggestion of subverting the ‘bad boy who needs rescuing’ trope, so it turns out the heroine is the one who has a lot to learn. I began to wonder what the heroine could be getting wrong in her life that a ‘bad boy’ has to rescue her. I would happily pursuing this train of thought till a story emerged.

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The question ‘where do your ideas come from?’ is one writers are asked a lot. Whoever created ChatGPT is a tech person who came up with an idea for it, just like writers come up with ideas for stories. I come back to Dennis Potter’s quote about ‘the most beautiful part of being alive’, and humans’ capacity for stories. The world is changing all the time, and like the playwright I love how writers adapt and are constantly turning ideas into stories.

Are you a writer or an artist? Where do your ideas come from? Has a book or film ever sparked an idea for you? Have you ever used AI to generate ideas? If you have any comments at all, I’d love to hear from you!

And if you’d like to find out where the other authors in our Round Robin get their ideas from, please click on the links below…

Connie Vines http://mizging.blogspot.com

Diane Bator https://escapewithawriter.wordpress.com/

Anne Stenhouse http://annestenhousenovelist.wordpress.com

Judith Copek http://lynx-sis.blogspot.com/

Dr. Bob Rich https://wp.me/p3Xihq-3ef

Skye Taylor http://www.skye-writer.com/blogging_by_the_sea

19 responses to “Writer inspiration and tips on using AI to generate ideas”

  1. Connie Vines Avatar
    Connie Vines

    Helena I agree with you. ChatGPT / Al suggestions often vague and not very helpful. Your post was extremely informative..

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    1. Helena Fairfax Avatar

      Hi Connie, I enjoyed playing around with ChatGPT, but I can’t see AI ever being able to match humans for story-telling…although who knows what may happen in the future?
      Thanks very much for dropping in, and for your comment x

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  2. Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt Avatar

    I can see someone with no ideas trying that, but it always seems I have the opposite problem: too MANY ideas, and having to assassinate many good ones to let The Chosen One live.

    For me, that’s the fun in fiction: letting the ideas percolate, glom onto each other and produce offspring, making the tough decision which is the version with the correct nuance, or writing a new one because none of the candidates qualify…

    I’m not sharing that with a content-scooper.

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    1. Dr Bob Rich Avatar

      You, Winston Churchill and I…
      “The problem is not to find a solution, but to choose from among a dozen of them.”

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    2. Helena Fairfax Avatar

      I love how you let the Chosen One live, Alicia. That’s a great way to describe it! I’ve heard many writers say the same – that the problem isn’t finding ideas, it’s finding time to write all the stories they want to write.
      It was fun playing around with AI, but ChatGPT is nowhere near as inventive as the human mind. Interesting to see what will happen in the future.
      Thanks so much for dropping in, and for your great comment!

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      1. Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt Avatar

        I love it when OTHER people do some of my exploring for me – I have so little energy I can only wonder what it would be like to spend time interacting with the great A I. If I’m persuaded, then I’ll jump in with both hands. If not (so far, you’ve added to the ‘not’), then I move on (or, more likely, go back to MY work) having learned something new.

        You just can’t try everything for yourself, and still get anything lasting done. Writer blogs keep me au courant.

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  3. Dr Bob Rich Avatar

    You know what? Until I read this post, I’d never have even considered chatting with an AI writer.
    Thanks for the idea, but I think I’ll pass.
    And thank you for an entertaining and informative article.

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    1. Helena Fairfax Avatar

      I always enjoy our Round Robins, Bob. Thanks so much for dropping in, and for taking the time to comment!

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  4. Skye-writer Avatar

    I love your idea of taking a bit character that just happened to appeal to you somewhere and give them a whole new story. I used to fantasize about this when I was growing up. My dad watched the original Perry Mason but I was just old enough to be intrigued by the tall, capable blond PI – I thought then and still do, that Paul Drake was the best character. Maybe I should make him my next hero?? Change the name just enough to keep myself out of trouble?

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    1. Helena Fairfax Avatar

      That sounds like a great idea for a hero, Skye. I love rhe idea that with just a change of name you could give this character a new lease of life and a story of his own.
      I’ve enjoyed reading everyone’s take on this topic. Thanks for organising!

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  5. Victoria Chatham Avatar
    Victoria Chatham

    Lots of good ideas here. I must admit to still being leery about ChatGPT and AI so admire your foray into the new technology.

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    1. Helena Fairfax Avatar

      Hi Victoria, I’ve enjoyed finding out more about ChatGPT. Its capabilities are mind-boggling. It will be really interesting to see how things change over the next few years. Thanks very much for dropping in, and for taking the time to comment.

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  6. jameschristie466 Avatar
    jameschristie466

    Test?

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  7. jameschristie466 Avatar
    jameschristie466

    May have got WordPress working, although I’d like to take their IT team and dump them en masse off a building the way Hans Gruber went at the end of “Die Hard…”

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    1. Helena Fairfax Avatar

      Your test has come through, James. Thanks so much for persevering. I sympathise with the Hans Gruber approach! :D

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  8. Esther O'Neill Avatar

    Second hand comment, from my husband, years of IT in Little Germany, and
    has never been happy with AI – meaning the ‘ artificial’ label.
    Used to describe any other product, starting with food, artificial would deter customers. As your post demonstrates, ‘ AI’ can be a very creative tool.

    Born in human minds, none of them artificial, even in Silicone Valley, he has a very simple question… Why not Digital Intelligence ?

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    1. Helena Fairfax Avatar

      Hi Esther, your husband has a great question. We’ve grown up with stories of digital intelligence turning on humans. I wonder if humans find it less intimidating to label the intelligence ‘artificial’. And if computers really did have feelings, I wonder if they’d find this label offensive. Now my imagination is working up another story about a robots’ revolt… Thanks for your great comment. I enjoyed thinking it!

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      1. Esther O'Neill Avatar

        Thanks Helen…

        Less intimidating to label this artificial ? That’s an interesting idea too.

        Maybe all this started with Hal – and that ‘ I’m sorry Dave ‘ (One of my mother’s favourite films)

        IT diagnosis ? Dave must have been a rubbish programmer.

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        1. Helena Fairfax Avatar

          I love that film, too. And poor Dave! We’re all in the hands of programmers now. If you’re interested, I’m really enjoying this Radio 4 programme with novelist Naomi Alderman, who talks about us being in the ‘third great information crisis’, after writing and printing. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0020xvb I’d love to know how the world will look in a hundred years.

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